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Ping interface administrators सदस्य:Tiven2240 and सदस्य:अभय नातू. Alexis Jazz (चर्चा) १७:१२, ८ ऑगस्ट २०२२ (IST)
- Hi @Alexis Jazz:, thanks for the report. Where did you find this error? Was it mobile view or desktop view. Are you still facing the error? --Tiven2240 (चर्चा) १२:२८, ९ ऑगस्ट २०२२ (IST)
- Tiven2240, desktop, Vector classic, also when logged out, yes. You are familiar with the console? Alexis Jazz (चर्चा) १४:५६, ९ ऑगस्ट २०२२ (IST)
enable, configure wpcleanerसंपादन करा
errors detected by Check Wiki project can be fixed using WPCleaner. i assume it requies admin to enable and configure. i request to enable on our wiki. thank you. -రుద్రుడు (चर्चा) ०८:४५, २१ फेब्रुवारी २०२३ (IST)
Mass deletion of files or mass cleanup of filesसंपादन करा
Hi! I made a post 10 years ago at विकिपीडिया:आंतरविकि_दूतावास/जुनी_चर्चा_१#चित्र:Anjanerikilla.jpg that all files need a license. The reply was that
"Marathi Language Wikipedia comunity has clear understanding that we do not entertain request from Non Marathi language wikipedians in such respect unless required by Wikimedia Foundations direct intervention"
Is that still the opinion on mr.wiki?
If it is then it is a clear violation of wmf:Resolution:Licensing_policy to allow non-licensed files.
I hope you will help clean up files. For example
- Send messages to the users that is still active.
- Look through Special:UnusedFiles and delete files with no license (or non-free files)
- Use a bot to add a license (if uploader make a clear statement about source and license)
If central intervention is still required I will make a suggestio on meta to make a central mass deletion of files on mr.wiki.
But I see no reason why that should be needed. --MGA73 (चर्चा) ०१:१८, २६ फेब्रुवारी २०२३ (IST)
- Hello again! There are 19141 files on mr.wiki. About 1800 seems to have a license. Would anyone like to help save the remaining 17300 files? Ping सदस्य:अभय नातू and सदस्य:संतोष गोरे. We need local users and admins to help out. --MGA73 (चर्चा) १६:४१, १९ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Tiven2240 आणि Usernamekiran: कृपया नोंद घ्यावी. या बद्दल मला फारशी माहिती नाही.-संतोष गोरे ( 💬 ) १९:५५, २० मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @MGA73: Hello. Thanks for the message, and apologies for the delayed response. Even though I am active on Wikipedia every day, I somehow missed your first post. I am not sure what you mean by "Would anyone like to help save the remaining 17300 files?" If the files do not have licences, there's not much we can do. Encouraging uninvolved editors to update licenses may inadvertently result in license laundering. All the files are hosted on Wikimedia's servers in US, so legally speaking the files come under American copyright laws. Even if we assume Indian copyright laws are applicable, even then non-public domain files, and the ones without appropriate licenses should be deleted. But given the large number of files, I think this should be discussed with wider audience. Maybe sending mass message to all recently active editors, and having a discussion at Marathi village pump would be a good start. —usernamekiran (talk) २२:४२, २० मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: Thanks a lot for your reply. I agree that license laundering is to be avoided. What could be done is to send messages to uploaders and ask them to clarify if they are the photographers or not and if they is they can add a license. If the file shows a photo that is old enough it could be PD due to age. If a file is a modification of a file from Commons/Wikipedia then the file could probably be licensed the same way as the original. If the file is non-free then it could perhaps be used as fair use if a relevant rationale can be provided.
- It will be a big work unless it is decided simply to mass delete all files without a license. But it could be done in steps. For exampe files in विशेष:न_वापरलेली_चित्रे is not in use so it will not be a very big loss if they are deleted. But we could also try to find out if any of the big uploaders are still active so they get a chance to add a source and license.
- If you could make a notice at a better place and in local language that would be awesome. --MGA73 (चर्चा) २३:३४, २० मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- For example it seems that User:Archanapote is still active and have uploaded almost 500 files without a license. Sadly User:Priya Hiregange does not seem to be active (7380 uploads). --MGA73 (चर्चा) २३:४१, २० मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- Similar to Usernamekiran, I missed this message as well. I think it's a fair ask to verify licensing. IIRC, a whole lot of these files were added when a few users did a SD-card dump on here. Starting with a central message and following up with specific users seems to be a prudent two-pronged approach. We (w:mr admins) will come up with messaging as well as other ways to save any files we can over the next few days. cc:@संतोष गोरे, Usernamekiran, आणि Tiven2240:
- अभय नातू (चर्चा) ०४:५६, २१ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
It might be a good idea to have someone with a bot to add:
{{Information |description = |date = |source = |author = |permission = |other_versions = }}
To all files so users know where to add the information. If there is any text on the file page perhaps it could be added to the description field. --MGA73 (चर्चा) २३:०७, २१ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
@MGA73: Thank you. I sampled some images uploaded by Priya Hiregange, all the sampled images had meta-data, so it is safe to assume that the files were created by Priya Hiregange. Maybe can assume that all the image files with proper metadata are user-created and add a "CC BY-SA 4.0" to these files? Regarding the template to be added, do you mean to add that blank template to every file/image, or on the files that do not have licensing information? —usernamekiran (talk) ०९:०८, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: I also think that it is very likely it is own work. But I do not think adding licenses for uploaders is a good idea. There could be exceptions. For example if we get a user to write a message on their talk page "Yes they are my work and I agree to cc-by-sa-4.0". So I think it would be better to try sending an email first and ask for a license.
- On some wikis licenses have been added if मिडियाविकी:Uploadtext or whatever user saw during upload had a statement like "By uploading your file you agree to release the file as cc-by-sa-3.0". --MGA73 (चर्चा) ११:३५, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: I saw your message about having a bot to downsize non-free files. Thats a good idea. But first perhaps delete orphan non-free files? According to वर्ग:All non-free media there are only 6 non-free files on mr.wiki :-D so I guess first step is to add {{non-free media}} to all non-free license templates. --MGA73 (चर्चा) १८:४८, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @MGA73: Hi. lol, yes, that's correct, but there are a lot of files that have no templates/tags at all. So we can't be sure how many non-free files we have here. A few hours ago, I created User:KiranBOT II/imagelist (it is transclusion of 4 pages, User:KiranBOT II/imagelist 1 to 4). There are around 19k files hosted on mrwiki. I am not sure how to program the bot to see if a file has "satisfactory" metadata. Also, there are files uploaded by Priya Hiregange that don't have metadata, and follow nomenclature of facebook. e.g.: File:1098177 4962377951143 1107498785 n.jpg —usernamekiran (talk) २१:१६, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: Usually the first thing I do when I start to clean up a wiki is to try to find all license templates and add either {{non-free media}} or {{free media}}. Then I make a list of all files NOT in either Category:All free media or Category:All non-free media (example https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/71493). If you know how to make quarries it should be possible to make a list of the templates used on the files and then you can look for templates that look like license templates (so they can be fixed too). Yeah the last file look like a Facebook file but sometimes users upload a file to Facebook and then later upload to Wikipedia. So it is not always a copyvio even if it is from Facebook. --MGA73 (चर्चा) २३:१२, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- I think that the files in Category:CC-BY-SA-4.0-disputed might be okay to move to Commons. The reason I added "-disputed" in the category name is because the license might have been added with a bot a few years ago. So before the files are moved it should be checked that it was not added by someone else. Also the template have changed content. Before 26 July 2015 it was a mixt of GFDL and a lot of cc-templates. After it is cc-by-sa-4.0. So I think it should be split up depending on upload date. If the uploaders are still active perhaps we could ask them to relicense the files to cc-by-sa-4.0. --MGA73 (चर्चा) ००:३६, २४ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- I located a templates to fix: साचा:प्रताधिकारित संचिका. --MGA73 (चर्चा) ०१:२८, २४ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: Could you add {{Non-free media}} to साचा:प्रताधिकारित संचिका?
- Also I have send an email to Priya Hiregange and hope for a reply. --MGA73 (चर्चा) २२:१०, २५ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @MGA73: Hi. I could not understand what exactly you were asking, so I created सदस्य:MGA73/sandbox. Would you please edit it, and after it is done, I will copy-paste the entire contents to साचा:प्रताधिकारित संचिका. —usernamekiran (talk) ११:१४, २७ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: sure, I made an edit. --MGA73 (चर्चा) १९:०५, २७ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @MGA73: Hi. I could not understand what exactly you were asking, so I created सदस्य:MGA73/sandbox. Would you please edit it, and after it is done, I will copy-paste the entire contents to साचा:प्रताधिकारित संचिका. —usernamekiran (talk) ११:१४, २७ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- I located a templates to fix: साचा:प्रताधिकारित संचिका. --MGA73 (चर्चा) ०१:२८, २४ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- I think that the files in Category:CC-BY-SA-4.0-disputed might be okay to move to Commons. The reason I added "-disputed" in the category name is because the license might have been added with a bot a few years ago. So before the files are moved it should be checked that it was not added by someone else. Also the template have changed content. Before 26 July 2015 it was a mixt of GFDL and a lot of cc-templates. After it is cc-by-sa-4.0. So I think it should be split up depending on upload date. If the uploaders are still active perhaps we could ask them to relicense the files to cc-by-sa-4.0. --MGA73 (चर्चा) ००:३६, २४ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @Usernamekiran: Usually the first thing I do when I start to clean up a wiki is to try to find all license templates and add either {{non-free media}} or {{free media}}. Then I make a list of all files NOT in either Category:All free media or Category:All non-free media (example https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/71493). If you know how to make quarries it should be possible to make a list of the templates used on the files and then you can look for templates that look like license templates (so they can be fixed too). Yeah the last file look like a Facebook file but sometimes users upload a file to Facebook and then later upload to Wikipedia. So it is not always a copyvio even if it is from Facebook. --MGA73 (चर्चा) २३:१२, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- @MGA73: Hi. lol, yes, that's correct, but there are a lot of files that have no templates/tags at all. So we can't be sure how many non-free files we have here. A few hours ago, I created User:KiranBOT II/imagelist (it is transclusion of 4 pages, User:KiranBOT II/imagelist 1 to 4). There are around 19k files hosted on mrwiki. I am not sure how to program the bot to see if a file has "satisfactory" metadata. Also, there are files uploaded by Priya Hiregange that don't have metadata, and follow nomenclature of facebook. e.g.: File:1098177 4962377951143 1107498785 n.jpg —usernamekiran (talk) २१:१६, २३ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
@Usernamekiran: If you want there are some things you could do with your bot. For example:
- Create a template like oc:Modèl:No license and add that to all files that do not have a license
- Add categories like "Files uploaded by <user xx>" to the files (you could start with the top 10 or 20 uploaders)
- Add {{Information}} on the files unless they have one (not on the non-free files)
- Leave a notice on the user talk pages with a message that "You have uploaded one or more files without a license. Please add one or the file will be deleted." or "You have uploaded one or more files with a free license. Please help check that it has a good source and author."
I think mr.wiki could give users for example 1 month to fix files without a license and if it is not fixed then all files should be deleted. --MGA73 (चर्चा) १९:४६, २९ मार्च २०२३ (IST)
- What does the word "क्रिकॉमन्स" mean? I think that साचा:क्रिकॉमन्स should be replaced by standard templates like
{{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-1.0|cc-by-2.0|cc-by-sa-2.0}}
- There is no reason to include the NC and ND templates. But I would like to make sure that the template indicate own work. --MGA73 (चर्चा) १४:०४, १ एप्रिल २०२३ (IST)