चर्चा:नवबौद्ध

In principle there is nothing wrong in having a separate article ont his subject.Ofcourse article writing people take care to maintain it with good encyclopedic standard. Hindi wikipedia articles seems to have good article on this religion Please do refer and translate also from good articles about बौद्ध religion; do consider to translate from there , it will time saving I will also try to contribute poistively to related articles.Mahitgar १६:५७, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

when you put in any tag

Be specifig when you ask others to make the article according to wikipedia standard. I do not see any of the standards that are being overlooked. If you point me to exact words or sentences I would be glad to chang those.--Layzyak १८:४४, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Hi,

Reason for the tag was mostly spellings and grammar. Also, pls try to maintain a neutral POV, for example -- भारतातील करोडो अस्प्रूश्यांना या घट्नेने एक नवा आशेचा किरण दिसला is abstract. It can not be verified, even after extensive research, since it describes a state of mind :-)

The बदल tag does not mean the text in here is incorrect. Only that it needs to be reformatted and made more coherent, imo.

अभय नातू १८:४९, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

p.s. as for being specific, I quote the description of the tag itself "हा साचा अशुध्दलेखन, चुकीचे नामकरण, अयोग्य वा अन्य भाषेतील मजकूर आढळल्यास वापरला जातो. कृपया या संबंधीची चर्चा चर्चापानावर पहावी."

Abhay I do not see that more abstract than this sentence. महाराष्ट्राला ऋग्वेदामध्ये "राष्ट्र" या नावाने संबोधले गेले आहे. This statement is not just abtract but absurd. If you can write "karodo hidus" etc why this sentence seem to be wrong? there are similar mistakes all over other pages. I will remove such unverifiable information from this page but same rules should be applied to all other pages as well as those pages should be written in good faith.. :-)--Layzyak १९:०७, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Mahitgar,

I consider my grammr to be much than that I find on other articles. :-). what do you think as अशुध्दलेखन? chukiche namkaran? are there any specific rules that I have violated while writing it? that is why I am asking you to be specific.

Hello Layzyak,

Let me reiterate that I'm not against what you're writing.

If you want to find faults here, there are plenty. That does not give us the license to make more, now, does it? :-) That would be insulting to the tens of editors working here tirelessly to remove the junk created by others.

If you see a fault, fix it. Reason for the tag on your article, and you seem to be offended by it, is that I saw someone working at that time. With that tag, I wanted to notifiy the active editor of changes before the article became to big.

As for grammar/spellings, there definitely are some spelling mistakes and marginal grammar improvements possible. I will defer grammar to the experts like Sankalp, J, etc.

I do not find fault with the intent of the sentence I pointed out, just the form. I would have written that as - भारतातील करोडो अस्पृश्यांना यामुळे संधी मिळण्याची शक्यता निर्माण झाली. This is better imo, as it was witnessed by the rise of former अस्पृश्य people in the Indian society. Or, if you can find a speech, text or even remember something that refers to it, i.e. Dr. Ambedkar's works, newspaper headlines..anything. cite it and the sentence would be just fine as is (of course, with spelling corrections.)

I understand the topic at hand a little and appreciate you stepping up to write about it. I (as most editors here ) hold no bias for or against it. In fact, we're only trying to help.

अभय नातू १९:२०, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

thank you I will make changes accordingly. I am in process of adding those references. It is much easier to write in english than marathi so the progress is little slow... --Layzyak १९:२३, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Rewrite

Contrary to your assertion, there were a number of grammatical and spelling mistakes in your contribution. Instead of bringing them up here and pointing fingers, I have corrected them.

They were simple kana, matra, ukar mistakes and worse. I am no 'pandit' and even I could figure them out.

Plese take a look at the difference between revisions to understand your errors.

अभय नातू १९:२९, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Layzyak,
First of all, I appreciate your efforts to contribute on Marathi Wikipedia
But there are few grammatical mistakes in this article. Following are some,
मृत्यनंतर
<साधारण पणे> <ई.स. ५००> <पर्यन्त> समूळ <उच्चाट्न> झाले
अस्प्रुश्य
Please correct those. In that view, I think the tagging done by Abhay was proper. As an Administrator, I think, Abhay was always impartial about the content and articles on Marathi wiki.
About the grammar, everybody makes mistakes in the beginning. (I do many:)), but you can ask others to help. I think सदस्य:Sankalpdravid can help you about grammar.
Also, wherever you find any unverified information you can put साचा:संदर्भ हवा there.
No hard feelings. Together we can do much much more for Wiki.
Regards,
Padalkar.kshitij १९:३२, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Looks like there are quite a few people interested in this article. :-). Anyways, Abhay, I appreciate your view to work towards NPOV but your actions does not seem so. The changes you made are counted as vandalism and not grammatical corrections. Please refrain from vandalising articles thank you. Please discuss before making such changes. As far a grammer is concerned it is correct by every "vyakaran niyams" --Layzyak १९:३६, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Please follow your own advice and cite specific examples thank you.

If you're going to blame your mistakes on others (editors, font, OS) please do not proclaim yourself as purveyor of better grammar and spellings. If you need help with it, be upfront and ask for it. Don't start finding excuses for your mistakes when they're pointed out.

From my own experience, I can tell you that there are lots of helpful people here who are interested in making this a better encyclopedia. We do not have personal agenda. We all help each other improve our work. Your attitude will not get you any help, only resentment and animosity.

अभय नातू २०:१९, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Back to topic at hand

I see that you removed भारतातील पूर्वीच्या दलित हिंदू समाजातील व तद्नंतर बौद्ध धर्म स्वीकारलेल्या व्यक्तींना नवबौद्ध असे संबोधले जाते. साधारण इ.स. १९६५ नंतर बौद्ध धर्म स्वीकारलेल्या व्यक्तींना हे संबोधल लागू होते. that I added at the top and probably thought it was vandalism.

It is customary on wikipedia articles to define/describe the title in one-two sentences at the beginning. The information I wrote there was taken from your contribution. I did not make it up. To call that vandalism shows a lack of understanding on your part. अभय नातू २०:२६, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

well abhay, I think I am wasting my time in replying you. If you think what you think is correct, please go ahead and correct it. There is always different POV but you seem to be more interested in putting on your POV. I am in no hurry. I will put in all the references that I know as my goal is to provide more information to the people in marathi and english. Words do matter to me as a simple change could make completely different meaning as you just did with the firsrt line. That is why I am asking you refrain from making such changes. It is my experties and not yours to write about my own people, religion. I am not blaming OS, users but I just wrote few lines and there have been more lines in charcha than the actual article. Please give some time before hammering down other person. I understand wikipedia policy and I am happy with it. Thank you, with Metta.--Layzyak २१:२८, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

Sure, I do understand that you know more about this topic than I do. Then again, if you're interested in "I'm better than you", I can cite my experience here in detail, as a contributor and admnistrator. I can also cite scores of incidents where I resolved conflicts between two strong-headed persons. I can also find at least a couple of users who will back me up on my impartiality and NPOV. But I'm not interested in demonstrating my superiority, or imposing my will/POV. I'm here as an admin to ensure that good information is disseminated. I'm here as a contributor to help others in contributing here.

It was never my intention to interfere with your work. That's why I put the tag on and suggested things in चर्चा. I could as well have made the changes and overwritten yours. If you feel the first line is inaccurate, go ahead and change it. Calling that addition vandalism is wrong.

If you think talking about your opinions is a waste of time, I'm not the one trying to impose... :-)

Enough चर्चा. Let's get back to work at hand. There's infinite work to be done.

अभय नातू २१:५४, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)

p.s. You may want to put {{काम चालू}} if you want others to not change an article you're working on.

suggested changes that others can do.

I have been trying to correct the words which seem to be wrong to some self-proclaimed "marathi pandits". If anyone has better editor please do so. For some words I couldnt write them properly using my key board. I is possible to use drupal's marathi module to write it much better and then paste it here. I would be doing so as and when I get time. but if you find better ways please improve this page. Thank you--Layzyak १९:४१, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)